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18 November, 2008

Bringing what where?

Last Sunday morning I was having breakfast with a brother in Christ. We were talking about our church and saying how much we really love to belong to such a wonderful gathering of believers. As we were talking, we mentioned one of the 'buzz words' (or should I say phrase) that our people use is "bringing up there down here." It was interesting that we were both on the same page when we discovered that we both found it a bit too cliche' if not even somewhat annoying.

I understand the premise of wanting to display God's love down here on earth to show the world so that they can see it too, but it seems that we are only taking it half way. Shouldn't our goal as followers of Christ be to "bring up there down here so that we can bring down here up there?" While it is important that the lost see Jesus displayed in us, it should be so that they will ultimately be able to spend eternity with Him in heaven.

We noticed that our church doesn't spend a lot of time talking about either heaven or hell. We had a message about hell a couple of weeks ago, and it was mostly about how people go through hell here on earth instead of hell being an actual geographic location that was meant to be the last stop for Satan and all those who reject Christ. No matter how bad our lives may be on this earth, it is no match for a lake of fire, eternal darkness, and separation from God forever.

Heaven isn't talked about much either as a final reward for those who have accepted Jesus as their Savior. It is mentioned as the place where God lives, but beyond that, it isn't talked about much.

Please don't think that I am trying to just be critical for the sake of argument. I love my church and it's leaders, but this is serious stuff that really needs to be given serious thought. After all, why are we here in the first place?

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